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	<title>Comments on: The New York Times-Washington Post Headline-Sharing Conspiracy Vindicates Their Longtime Critics</title>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I certainly hope that you've cancelled your subscription to the NY Times &#38; Washington Post ;-)

I remember &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh" rel="nofollow"&gt;Seymour Hersh&lt;/a&gt; talking about this in an interview months if not years ago. Matter of factly. No grand conspiracy. Something about seeing it and getting frustracted for being scooped on something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I certainly hope that you&#8217;ve cancelled your subscription to the NY Times &amp; Washington Post ;-)</p>
<p>I remember <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh" rel="nofollow">Seymour Hersh</a> talking about this in an interview months if not years ago. Matter of factly. No grand conspiracy. Something about seeing it and getting frustracted for being scooped on something.</p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't about tone or victimhood (you're putting words in my mouth again). This is about an admitted conspiracy to share front pages ahead of publication. It's that simple. The possible effects on news coverage, and thus on the national debate, of the two main liberal media organs (which even today largely drive the news priorities of the nets and most other papers) being closely in sync during the past 10-plus years is worthy of concern.

"We" (talkers, blogs) have more input now, which is good, but "we" are still mostly in reactive mode. Perhaps initiatives like Pajamas Media might change this.

Those who do the frontline reporting have a duty to give us their perspective straight without first filtering it by checking to see if it's the same as what their other news buds have. I would think this is Journalism 101, but NYT-WaPo have failed us in this regard for a decade, and apparently continue to do so. I feel, no, I have been cheated. We all have been cheated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t about tone or victimhood (you&#8217;re putting words in my mouth again). This is about an admitted conspiracy to share front pages ahead of publication. It&#8217;s that simple. The possible effects on news coverage, and thus on the national debate, of the two main liberal media organs (which even today largely drive the news priorities of the nets and most other papers) being closely in sync during the past 10-plus years is worthy of concern.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8221; (talkers, blogs) have more input now, which is good, but &#8220;we&#8221; are still mostly in reactive mode. Perhaps initiatives like Pajamas Media might change this.</p>
<p>Those who do the frontline reporting have a duty to give us their perspective straight without first filtering it by checking to see if it&#8217;s the same as what their other news buds have. I would think this is Journalism 101, but NYT-WaPo have failed us in this regard for a decade, and apparently continue to do so. I feel, no, I have been cheated. We all have been cheated.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 14:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I avoid static. If you don't like the Times, don't read it. If you don't like Fox News, don't watch it. If you don't like media, become the media. That's the American way.

Personally, I've grown very tired of the perpetual victimhood by my friends on the left. If just gets comical when the right adopts the same tone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I avoid static. If you don&#8217;t like the Times, don&#8217;t read it. If you don&#8217;t like Fox News, don&#8217;t watch it. If you don&#8217;t like media, become the media. That&#8217;s the American way.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;ve grown very tired of the perpetual victimhood by my friends on the left. If just gets comical when the right adopts the same tone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Driscoll.com</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1518</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Driscoll.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Another Step On The Path To 2014&lt;/strong&gt;

Compare and contrast the intertwining paths of new media and old, via two items going online simultaneously today: Pajamas Media announces the roadmap to its official launch in November. Meanwhile, this Washington Post article explains that starting ne...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Another Step On The Path To 2014</strong></p>
<p>Compare and contrast the intertwining paths of new media and old, via two items going online simultaneously today: Pajamas Media announces the roadmap to its official launch in November. Meanwhile, this Washington Post article explains that starting ne&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1514</link>
		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p align="left"&gt;The conspiracy to share headlines has been exposed. I don't need a code or a pattern, there is an admission from one of the conspirators (and an apparent BFD to boot).

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="left"&gt;The existence of a headline conspiracy is now an admitted and established fact. The speculation, besides the idea that collusion made things "simple" (it always does for the colluders at the expense of consumers who have a right to expect a free market and weren't getting it in reporting and the arena of ideas), is whether there was a motivation beyond reducing the stress of editors who should have been vigorously competing against each other instead of cooperating in secret.  Especially given the hysterical tone of these publications at the time of the Gingrich Revolution, there's reason to think there may have been.

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="left"&gt;In retrospect, it looks like the Clinton right-wing news conspiracy theorists may have been projecting based on the known (to them) behavior of their friends at WaPo and NYT.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p align="left"&gt;BTW, I'm growing to really despise how you avoid core arguments and try to put words in my mouth. You do it constantly to mischaracterize people's positions to gain an arguable position. You can do better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">The conspiracy to share headlines has been exposed. I don&#8217;t need a code or a pattern, there is an admission from one of the conspirators (and an apparent BFD to boot).</p>
<p align="left">The existence of a headline conspiracy is now an admitted and established fact. The speculation, besides the idea that collusion made things &#8220;simple&#8221; (it always does for the colluders at the expense of consumers who have a right to expect a free market and weren&#8217;t getting it in reporting and the arena of ideas), is whether there was a motivation beyond reducing the stress of editors who should have been vigorously competing against each other instead of cooperating in secret.  Especially given the hysterical tone of these publications at the time of the Gingrich Revolution, there&#8217;s reason to think there may have been.</p>
<p align="left">In retrospect, it looks like the Clinton right-wing news conspiracy theorists may have been projecting based on the known (to them) behavior of their friends at WaPo and NYT.</p>
<p align="left">BTW, I&#8217;m growing to really despise how you avoid core arguments and try to put words in my mouth. You do it constantly to mischaracterize people&#8217;s positions to gain an arguable position. You can do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p align="left"&gt;Wow Biz... you're sounding almost as sorry as my liberal friends boohooing about Fox news. You're not sounding like much of a champion of the free market either. Seems like too many people reading the DaVinci Code if you ask me. The brain finds patterns in collections of date if they are there or not. It's the way it works.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">Wow Biz&#8230; you&#8217;re sounding almost as sorry as my liberal friends boohooing about Fox news. You&#8217;re not sounding like much of a champion of the free market either. Seems like too many people reading the DaVinci Code if you ask me. The brain finds patterns in collections of date if they are there or not. It&#8217;s the way it works.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/09/15/the-new-york-washington-post-times/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p align="left"&gt;Amen, Bizz.  If they are willing to share, are they willing to censor, for instance, the monica story, as newsweek did before drudge broke it?  Were they sharing philosophies on how to cover republican issues?  What is the depths of collusion here?  This is wrong, and it taints the MSM for the smear merchants and purveyors of talking points that they are.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">Amen, Bizz.  If they are willing to share, are they willing to censor, for instance, the monica story, as newsweek did before drudge broke it?  Were they sharing philosophies on how to cover republican issues?  What is the depths of collusion here?  This is wrong, and it taints the MSM for the smear merchants and purveyors of talking points that they are.</p>
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