David Smith: NOW He Tells Us (Utah “Busted” Edition) — Smithbots Alert
Well, I’m learning that there are people out there willing to defend the indefensible.
Here are comments 6 through 9 at this previous post (6 and 8 are from what many of us have referred to as “Smithbots”, 7 and 9 are mine) on David Smith’s claim made to Bill Sloat of the Cleveland Openers blog that he “flirted” with running for Congress in Utah.
Since y’all want to keep the controversy visible, I’m only too happy to comply with your request:
(#6) Utah has a different system for primary elections. A candidate must first go to a party nominating convention, and then if they make it through they then appear on the ballot for the voters of the state. David went to the convention, but only Swallow and Bridgewater made it on to the Primary and hence on a general ballot. So David is correct. He never did appear on a ballot.
The Utah system allows for a lot more people to try out politics without the significant investment of a statewide primary, which is why you see so many candidates on that list you posted. It also makes it easier to challenge an incumbent, because you will only get two candidates in any one primary as the nominating convention prohibits more than two candidates passing onto the general primary election.
Comment by Jackson — 4/3/2006 @ 8:54 am | Edit This
(#7 - BizzyBlog response) #6, even if I concede the cuteness over ballots (which I don’t), your response gets you only halfway there. Showing up at a party convention in hopes of getting the primary nomination for congress is not “flirting†with running for Congress, it IS running for Congress. Arguing that it’s not is absurd, fundamentally dishonest, and was I believe an attempt to prevent someone from investigating and learning that he captured all of 16 votes in his “flirtation.â€
Comment by TBlumer — 4/3/2006 @ 9:20 am | Edit This
(#8) I agree with Jackson - Smith was not on the congressional ballot in Utah - specifically a primary or general election. The ballot he was on was not a public vote, but a vote within the party convention. I think you are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill with this “Busted Edition†But then again, no one ever said your reporting was supposed to be unbiased.. its your soapbox, stand on it all you like.
Comment by CMan — 4/3/2006 @ 4:44 pm | Edit This
(#9 - BizzyBlog response) Y’know, you guys just won’t answer the question of how somebody who is “flirting†with the idea of running for Congress stumbles into a GOP state convention hall and gets considered with a group of 11 other candidates for a nomination.
Are you going to tell me that only the top two finishers were serious, and the other 10 were “flirting� That’s bullcrap, and you know it. David Smith was RUNNING for Congress the moment the balloting began at the State convention, and my biases or yours can do nothing to alter that FACT.
Don’t waste your time with a response unless you can refute the “flirting†argument. Good luck.
Comment by TBlumer — 4/3/2006 @ 5:05 pm | Edit This
I have to apologize, though, as my last paragraph was written in haste.
I would LOOOOVE to keep receiving comments that attempt to defend David Smith’s 2002 Utah deception. I could go on like this every day until the election. The more people who learn that David Smith claimed that he “flirted” with running for Congress in Utah when he actually competed with 11 other candidates for the GOP nomination at the Utah GOP convention (and got his butt kicked), and the more incoherent attempts to defend the falsehood he attempts to bring to bear, the better.
So, please, keep those comments coming. :–>









