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		<title>By: dscott</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/11/couldnt-help-but-notice-121107/comment-page-1/#comment-118930</link>
		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MSM is still completely silent on tomorrow&#039;s government shutdown.  They are playing coy in order to lessen the blame on the Dem leadership.  It will all be a surprise and crisis of course!</description>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/11/couldnt-help-but-notice-121107/comment-page-1/#comment-118901</link>
		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No link yet on their website, it&#039;s only on air at this time, I sent them an email asking to put the info on their website.  Here&#039;s there contact link: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/ContactUs?pageId=5.11</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No link yet on their website, it&#8217;s only on air at this time, I sent them an email asking to put the info on their website.  Here&#8217;s there contact link: <a href="http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/ContactUs?pageId=5.11" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/InsideFox/ContactUs?pageId=5.11</a></p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/11/couldnt-help-but-notice-121107/comment-page-1/#comment-118895</link>
		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, I fished around Fox 13 Tampa for a few mins. and found nothing. Got a link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, I fished around Fox 13 Tampa for a few mins. and found nothing. Got a link?</p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/11/couldnt-help-but-notice-121107/comment-page-1/#comment-118894</link>
		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8, That will get a follow-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8, That will get a follow-up.</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
		<link>http://www.bizzyblog.com/2007/12/11/couldnt-help-but-notice-121107/comment-page-1/#comment-118893</link>
		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is amazing only my local TV station (Fox 13 Tampa) is reporting on the upcoming government shutdown on the 14th!  Why is the MSM so mum?  Are they fearful the Dems are going to get blamed for it, in years past this was always big news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is amazing only my local TV station (Fox 13 Tampa) is reporting on the upcoming government shutdown on the 14th!  Why is the MSM so mum?  Are they fearful the Dems are going to get blamed for it, in years past this was always big news.</p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 and #6, thanks for the info. I had thought the 1995 shutdown occurred later. This is a record by many weeks.

Let the drama begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 and #6, thanks for the info. I had thought the 1995 shutdown occurred later. This is a record by many weeks.</p>
<p>Let the drama begin.</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it seems December 14th is the witching hour!  http://www.fcnl.org/issues/item.php?item_id=2443&amp;issue_id=18 

How delicious: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FY_2008_U.S._federal_budget

&quot;Earmarks, other spending stripped
House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) signaled on December 10 his desire to push a budget package that toed the line on President Bush&#039;s spending recommendations, by stripping lawmakers&#039; earmarks and funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.[11] The announcement came on the heels of a Bush veto threat to an earlier omnibus spending package offered by Democrats. 

Originally slated to contain $520 billion in funds for the federal government, the scrapped plan would have included $70 billion in funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan war and $11 billion for domestic programs. Obey cited a White House resistance to compromise as one reason for withdrawing the package: 

&quot;Absent a Republican willingness to sit down and work out a reasonable compromise, I think we ought to end the game and go to the president&#039;s numbers,&quot; Obey said. &quot;I was willing to listen to the argument that we ought to at least add more for Afghanistan, but when the White House refuses to compromise, when the White House continues to stick it in our eye, I say to hell with it.&quot;[11]
According to The Washington Post, Obey&#039;s proposal &quot;would ax about 9,500 home-district and home-state projects worth a total of $9.5 billion.&quot; Some presidential priorities might also be scrapped to keep the bill on-target for Bush&#039;s spending level recommendations, including abstinence education, and &quot;nuclear weapons research and development in the Energy Department, NASA programs and high-technology border security efforts&quot; that critics called &quot;wasteful and ineffective.&quot;[11] &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it seems December 14th is the witching hour!  <a href="http://www.fcnl.org/issues/item.php?item_id=2443&amp;issue_id=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.fcnl.org/issues/item.php?item_id=2443&amp;issue_id=18</a> </p>
<p>How delicious: <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FY_2008_U.S._federal_budget" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FY_2008_U.S._federal_budget</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Earmarks, other spending stripped<br />
House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) signaled on December 10 his desire to push a budget package that toed the line on President Bush&#8217;s spending recommendations, by stripping lawmakers&#8217; earmarks and funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.[11] The announcement came on the heels of a Bush veto threat to an earlier omnibus spending package offered by Democrats. </p>
<p>Originally slated to contain $520 billion in funds for the federal government, the scrapped plan would have included $70 billion in funding for the Iraq and Afghanistan war and $11 billion for domestic programs. Obey cited a White House resistance to compromise as one reason for withdrawing the package: </p>
<p>&#8220;Absent a Republican willingness to sit down and work out a reasonable compromise, I think we ought to end the game and go to the president&#8217;s numbers,&#8221; Obey said. &#8220;I was willing to listen to the argument that we ought to at least add more for Afghanistan, but when the White House refuses to compromise, when the White House continues to stick it in our eye, I say to hell with it.&#8221;[11]<br />
According to The Washington Post, Obey&#8217;s proposal &#8220;would ax about 9,500 home-district and home-state projects worth a total of $9.5 billion.&#8221; Some presidential priorities might also be scrapped to keep the bill on-target for Bush&#8217;s spending level recommendations, including abstinence education, and &#8220;nuclear weapons research and development in the Energy Department, NASA programs and high-technology border security efforts&#8221; that critics called &#8220;wasteful and ineffective.&#8221;[11] &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This link has a list of government shutdowns due to the failure of Congress to pass budgets, the worst was in 1995 under Clinton.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm &quot;The Costs of a Shutdown
Following the six-day shutdown that lasted from November 14 - 20, 1995, the Clinton Administration released documentation of what it cost:&quot;

So at this point I think we have a record, all of Reagan&#039;s and Bush&#039;s shutdowns due to Congress&#039;s failure were in early November.  Clinton&#039;s only lasted into mid November.  So what I&#039;m deducing here is that W not wanting to be the bad guy in all this is playing it coy by vetoing every bill individually, forcing the Congress to pass continuing resolutions to keep government running at the funding levels of the old budget.  So in essence, W has zeroed out or delayed any spending increases Congress wishes to do.  A sound strategy in my estimate, this makes Congressional leadership look totally incompetent as they can&#039;t get their act together to pass a veto proof bill.  W and the Repubs come out the winners, the Dems demonstrate they can&#039;t even get a compromise through unless accede to the demands of spending restraint which they are loathe to do.  W has learned the lesson of his dad and not allow himself to get cornered with the Dems forcing a tax increase down his throat and get blamed for it to boot.  It was afterall a Dem lead Congress that increased taxes during Bush Sr. admin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This link has a list of government shutdowns due to the failure of Congress to pass budgets, the worst was in 1995 under Clinton.<br />
<a href="http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa102499p2.htm</a> &#8220;The Costs of a Shutdown<br />
Following the six-day shutdown that lasted from November 14 &#8211; 20, 1995, the Clinton Administration released documentation of what it cost:&#8221;</p>
<p>So at this point I think we have a record, all of Reagan&#8217;s and Bush&#8217;s shutdowns due to Congress&#8217;s failure were in early November.  Clinton&#8217;s only lasted into mid November.  So what I&#8217;m deducing here is that W not wanting to be the bad guy in all this is playing it coy by vetoing every bill individually, forcing the Congress to pass continuing resolutions to keep government running at the funding levels of the old budget.  So in essence, W has zeroed out or delayed any spending increases Congress wishes to do.  A sound strategy in my estimate, this makes Congressional leadership look totally incompetent as they can&#8217;t get their act together to pass a veto proof bill.  W and the Repubs come out the winners, the Dems demonstrate they can&#8217;t even get a compromise through unless accede to the demands of spending restraint which they are loathe to do.  W has learned the lesson of his dad and not allow himself to get cornered with the Dems forcing a tax increase down his throat and get blamed for it to boot.  It was afterall a Dem lead Congress that increased taxes during Bush Sr. admin.</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You had me scared there for a moment, Dems not screwing over the public when they have a chance is just not in character.  Now if this weren&#039;t such a critical primary election year, they would have simply laid low and let the taxes (AMT) increase on their own.  I believe the demographics of those subject to the AMT falls more to the Dems than Repubs at least according to the TNR when they initially wrote about it. That article was pulled btw by TNR, I guess it tipped Rangel&#039;s hand. Since the Bush tax cuts didn&#039;t materialize for them due to the AMT, they were especially bitter.  That&#039;s why so many Dems have a hard time believing the Bush tax cuts went to the middle class.  I&#039;m firmly of the middle class and the Cuts saved me about $2k a year, they on the other hand with greater than $120k income had the AMT instead of the tax cut.  So in all likelihood, the House may cave on the issue since without a Dem in the Whitehouse to give them cover by collectively taking credit for it, they don&#039;t have the guts to face the electorate alone.  I can see the Dem gears spinning now on calculating how and if they can get away with it.  The Dems need to blame W for the economy going into recession, not fixing the AMT will suck billions out of the economy from the very group of people who spend the most.  The Dem&#039;s problem is they are vulnerable to being blamed for putting the final nail in the coffin and they don&#039;t want that, so it comes down to how hot the BDS fever is burning in their heads.  Do they want W bad enough to risk hurting themselves???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me scared there for a moment, Dems not screwing over the public when they have a chance is just not in character.  Now if this weren&#8217;t such a critical primary election year, they would have simply laid low and let the taxes (AMT) increase on their own.  I believe the demographics of those subject to the AMT falls more to the Dems than Repubs at least according to the TNR when they initially wrote about it. That article was pulled btw by TNR, I guess it tipped Rangel&#8217;s hand. Since the Bush tax cuts didn&#8217;t materialize for them due to the AMT, they were especially bitter.  That&#8217;s why so many Dems have a hard time believing the Bush tax cuts went to the middle class.  I&#8217;m firmly of the middle class and the Cuts saved me about $2k a year, they on the other hand with greater than $120k income had the AMT instead of the tax cut.  So in all likelihood, the House may cave on the issue since without a Dem in the Whitehouse to give them cover by collectively taking credit for it, they don&#8217;t have the guts to face the electorate alone.  I can see the Dem gears spinning now on calculating how and if they can get away with it.  The Dems need to blame W for the economy going into recession, not fixing the AMT will suck billions out of the economy from the very group of people who spend the most.  The Dem&#8217;s problem is they are vulnerable to being blamed for putting the final nail in the coffin and they don&#8217;t want that, so it comes down to how hot the BDS fever is burning in their heads.  Do they want W bad enough to risk hurting themselves???</p>
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		<title>By: TBlumer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBlumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1, sorry. Itâ€™s the Senate only. The editorial later notes that the House is rejecting doing away with Paygo, making the AMT fix not a done deal yet.

&lt;em&gt;House Democrats realize how humiliating this all is, so they&#039;re still vowing to make paygo work. Especially embarrassed are the so-called Blue Dog Democrats for whom â€œfiscal disciplineâ€ is a coat of political protection. John Tanner of Tennessee is so upset he says the Senate paygo abdication â€œis bordering on criminal,â€ and about 30 Blue Dogs are threatening to vote against AMT repeal without offsetting tax increases. They&#039;d have more credibility if they also opposed the various fiscal gimmicks in the Schip and farm bills, not to mention the 2008 Congressional budget outline that exceeded President Bush&#039;s budget request by $22 billion.&lt;/em&gt;

#2, If this isnâ€™t a record, itâ€™s darn close. There was the late 1995 or early 1996 government shutdown that dragged on longer, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1, sorry. Itâ€™s the Senate only. The editorial later notes that the House is rejecting doing away with Paygo, making the AMT fix not a done deal yet.</p>
<p><em>House Democrats realize how humiliating this all is, so they&#8217;re still vowing to make paygo work. Especially embarrassed are the so-called Blue Dog Democrats for whom â€œfiscal disciplineâ€ is a coat of political protection. John Tanner of Tennessee is so upset he says the Senate paygo abdication â€œis bordering on criminal,â€ and about 30 Blue Dogs are threatening to vote against AMT repeal without offsetting tax increases. They&#8217;d have more credibility if they also opposed the various fiscal gimmicks in the Schip and farm bills, not to mention the 2008 Congressional budget outline that exceeded President Bush&#8217;s budget request by $22 billion.</em></p>
<p>#2, If this isnâ€™t a record, itâ€™s darn close. There was the late 1995 or early 1996 government shutdown that dragged on longer, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear that the Dems are trying to pass a budget Omibus bill to coverup their incompetence of not passing 11 of the 12 budget appropriation bills.  What&#039;s the record on not passing appropriation bills on lateness??  I think this is grist for a good article.  The Dems can&#039;t even do the most basic of governance, passing a budget, this is the height of incompetence.  I wonder if they will get up the nerve to criticize the Iraqi government again to distract from their own incompetence.  Yes, I used the word &quot;incompetence&quot; repeatedly, it should be the title of the article.  It reminds me of a career path truism, &quot;people rise to their highest level of incompetence&quot; in order to stretch themselves to grow. The idea being if you stick with what is safe and comfortable, you&#039;ll never reach your greatest potential.  I think the Dems have reached that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear that the Dems are trying to pass a budget Omibus bill to coverup their incompetence of not passing 11 of the 12 budget appropriation bills.  What&#8217;s the record on not passing appropriation bills on lateness??  I think this is grist for a good article.  The Dems can&#8217;t even do the most basic of governance, passing a budget, this is the height of incompetence.  I wonder if they will get up the nerve to criticize the Iraqi government again to distract from their own incompetence.  Yes, I used the word &#8220;incompetence&#8221; repeatedly, it should be the title of the article.  It reminds me of a career path truism, &#8220;people rise to their highest level of incompetence&#8221; in order to stretch themselves to grow. The idea being if you stick with what is safe and comfortable, you&#8217;ll never reach your greatest potential.  I think the Dems have reached that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: dscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>dscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whut? They actually passed the AMT index fix????  I&#039;m shocked.  Is it official yet or not, when will W sign it into law?  I find this hard to believe that the Dems passed on a chance to raise taxes without lifting a finger, what&#039;s the catch????  How much did they really index it for???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whut? They actually passed the AMT index fix????  I&#8217;m shocked.  Is it official yet or not, when will W sign it into law?  I find this hard to believe that the Dems passed on a chance to raise taxes without lifting a finger, what&#8217;s the catch????  How much did they really index it for???</p>
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