Comments on: The Obamas and the TUCC Bulletins — A May 5 Series http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/05/05/the-obamas-and-the-tucc-bulletins-an-all-day-series/ The Business End of the Blogosphere Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:38:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: TBlumer http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/05/05/the-obamas-and-the-tucc-bulletins-an-all-day-series/#comment-122134 TBlumer Tue, 06 May 2008 19:15:41 +0000 http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/05/05/the-obamas-and-the-tucc-bulletins-an-all-day-series/#comment-122134 #1, thanks. The 012807 bulletin has an item in Williams's "To Do Justice" about the Cook County budget, a tribute by Wright to a Dr. Waldo Johnson. Johnson is head of this org: http://www.contemporaryfamilies.org/ I would characterize it, based on a quick review, as a friendly-appearing enemy of the traditional family. The 012807 bulletin also has an announcement of Hilliard's 020407 lecture (not titled) as part of African American Heritage Month. Obama's appearance as a book signer is also full-page-advertised in the 012807 bulletin, as well as the 012107 bulletin. Hillard is mentioned or quoted at least occasionally in TUCC bulletins, but I don't recall an over-the-top quote from her. That doesn't mean there isn't one. #1, thanks.

The 012807 bulletin has an item in Williams’s “To Do Justice” about the Cook County budget, a tribute by Wright to a Dr. Waldo Johnson. Johnson is head of this org:

http://www.contemporaryfamilies.org/

I would characterize it, based on a quick review, as a friendly-appearing enemy of the traditional family.

The 012807 bulletin also has an announcement of Hilliard’s 020407 lecture (not titled) as part of African American Heritage Month.

Obama’s appearance as a book signer is also full-page-advertised in the 012807 bulletin, as well as the 012107 bulletin.

Hillard is mentioned or quoted at least occasionally in TUCC bulletins, but I don’t recall an over-the-top quote from her. That doesn’t mean there isn’t one.

]]> By: CTM http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/05/05/the-obamas-and-the-tucc-bulletins-an-all-day-series/#comment-122130 CTM Tue, 06 May 2008 16:36:11 +0000 http://www.bizzyblog.com/2008/05/05/the-obamas-and-the-tucc-bulletins-an-all-day-series/#comment-122130 Thank you for your work on this issue. I think you are very right about the impossibility of the Obamas not being aware of, and 'encouraged' by the teaching of this church. Since it is obvious from the videos that the congregation accepts and cheers for the message and the way it is delivered, how could they possibly form any meaningful relationships with other members of this congregation without engaging in conversations where these kind of ideas would be discussed? They can't get away with saying that now that old Uncle Jeremiah is retired, things will be different. As you have pointed out, this is the way the entire pastoral staff thinks and teaches. They have to be of the same mind or they would have never been hired--that's the way it is in all churches. It's in the Bible. It's called "being of one mind". Maverick leaders are not tolerated for very long because they bring division to the congregation and cause churches to break apart. Last week they actually had a celebration of Trinity “Unity Day.” http://www.tucc.org/home.htm Click on message from Otis Moss. Last night while I was doing a search on Reginald Williams, I came across another page put together by Trinity with a long list of people who had spoken at Trinity and cds of their messages. One of them, from February 4, 2007, caught my eye called “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” by Asa G. Hilliard III (now deceased). I discovered by researching his name, he had written extensively on how to educate the AFRICAN-American child and had also co-authored a book with one of the education researchers (Hale) that Wright referenced at the NAACP speech and probably is a source or at least a contributor to Wright’s strange educational theories. http://www.tucc.org/store2/index.cfm?action=catbrowse&catid=40 The service that was written about that described Obama taking notes was January 28, 2007. There was a notice on the TUCC Home Page during the week of Jan. 21-28 that there would be a book-signing with Obama after the 11:00 am service. http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric Can you check out the bulletin for that week? On that list of speakers that I found, I hoped there would be one from Jan. 28, 07 but for some reason there are no cds on the list. Hmmm—strange isn’t it? Thank you for your work on this issue. I think you are very right about the impossibility of the Obamas not being aware of, and ‘encouraged’ by the teaching of this church. Since it is obvious from the videos that the congregation accepts and cheers for the message and the way it is delivered, how could they possibly form any meaningful relationships with other members of this congregation without engaging in conversations where these kind of ideas would be discussed? They can’t get away with saying that now that old Uncle Jeremiah is retired, things will be different. As you have pointed out, this is the way the entire pastoral staff thinks and teaches. They have to be of the same mind or they would have never been hired–that’s the way it is in all churches. It’s in the Bible. It’s called “being of one mind”. Maverick leaders are not tolerated for very long because they bring division to the congregation and cause churches to break apart. Last week they actually had a celebration of Trinity “Unity Day.” http://www.tucc.org/home.htm Click on message from Otis Moss.
Last night while I was doing a search on Reginald Williams, I came across another page put together by Trinity with a long list of people who had spoken at Trinity and cds of their messages. One of them, from February 4, 2007, caught my eye called “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” by Asa G. Hilliard III (now deceased). I discovered by researching his name, he had written extensively on how to educate the AFRICAN-American child and had also co-authored a book with one of the education researchers (Hale) that Wright referenced at the NAACP speech and probably is a source or at least a contributor to Wright’s strange educational theories. http://www.tucc.org/store2/index.cfm?action=catbrowse&catid=40

The service that was written about that described Obama taking notes was January 28, 2007. There was a notice on the TUCC Home Page during the week of Jan. 21-28 that there would be a book-signing with Obama after the 11:00 am service.
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric
Can you check out the bulletin for that week? On that list of speakers that I found, I hoped there would be one from Jan. 28, 07 but for some reason there are no cds on the list. Hmmm—strange isn’t it?

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