August 31, 2008

Colmes Cops Out on His ‘Pre-Natal’ Post

Filed under: Health Care,Life-Based News,Taxes & Government — Tom @ 9:46 pm

Six words would have done it, Alan: “I was wrong. I am sorry.”

But nooooooooooo.

First, Colmes “404ed” last night’s post that questioned whether or not Sarah Palin took “proper PRE-NATAL care” (emphasis mine):


For whatever reason, the post couldn’t be accessed via Google cache. Found — see Update within this post below.

Colmes’s original post, apparently in its entirety, and which he seemingly had to retrieve from Kim at Wizbang(!), was this (I took a separate partial shot of Wizbang’s graphic so I could fit it in the available space):


Colmes whined today that the reason he had to take the post down was “because of the vile comments made by a pletehora of conservatives who decided to invade the site and show us just how decent and value-driven some of them are.” Funny, Alan, you won’t let us see the comments, but my recall is that it was a free-for-all that was pretty bad in both directions.


Update, Sept. 1Here’s a Google cache of the post (saved here at BizzyBlog’s host for future reference), courtesy of NewsBusters reader coffee260, containing comments up to 4:26 a.m. after the original 9:54 p.m. post. I don’t know when Colmes 404ed it, so there may have been later comments. My “free-for-all that was pretty bad in both directions” assessment is correct. In fact, if you get past the profanity unfortunately directed at Colmes, the “substantive” counterbile from libs, while present in many fewer posts, is arguably worse than the rightie dish-outs, considering that they’re directed at a pregnant mother and her Down’s Syndrome child (e.g., “the baby isn’t hers” meme, Larry Flynt has pics of Palin, “her heavy drug use combined with her age that caused this poor childs condition”).


I underlined “pre-natal” in red, because Alan Colmes needs to visit a dictionary:

American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition
A descriptive term for the period between conception and birth.

This, Alan, is the commonly understood definition. The government programs you so adore that claim to improve prenatal care don’t concentrate on the final days of pregnancy, they allegedly deal with the entire “period between conception and birth.”

So you see, Alan, what you were alleging isn’t just that Sarah Palin wasn’t a good mother because she took a flight home from Texas while her doctor knew full well what she was doing and was okay with it, you were alleging that she was a poor mother during a large portion of the eight months she carried Trig (added Sept. 1), and that taking the flight was symptomatic of her poor “prenatal” care.

How dare you?

What’s more, you chose to run with what Roger “Meathead” Cadenhead wrote instead of going to the source material at, where you will see that Palin’s female doctor was communicating with her and had no problem with what she was doing:

Palin was in Texas last week for an energy conference of the National Governors Association when she experienced signs of early labor. She wasn’t due for another month.

Early Thursday — she thinks it was around 4 a.m. Texas time — she consulted with her doctor, family physician Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who is based in the Valley and has delivered lots of babies, including Piper, Palin’s 7-year-old.

Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid and also felt some contractions that seemed different from the false labor she had been having for months.

“I said I am going to stay for the day. I have a speech I was determined to give,” Palin said. She gave the luncheon keynote address for the energy conference.

Palin kept in close contact with Baldwin-Johnson. The contractions slowed to one or two an hour, “which is not active labor,” the doctor said.

“Things were already settling down when she talked to me,” Baldwin-Johnson said. Palin did not ask for a medical OK to fly, the doctor said.

“I don’t think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back,” Baldwin-Johnson said.

So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.

“I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor,” Palin said. After four kids, the governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn’t in labor.

More on Dr. Laurie Gregg, whose quote in the article has been lapped up by lefties far and wide, in a bit.

As stated earlier, Alan — Six words: “I was wrong, I am sorry.”

Waiting …..



  1. To heck with six dishonest words from Colmes. After this and other vile comments from Colmes, I want six honest words from Hannity “I will not work with Colmes.”

    Hannity has to show if he has standards. If he is aware of this (and there is no way he isn’t) he needs to show whether that is a person he is willing to associate with.

    Comment by largebill — August 31, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

  2. #1, I’m reading elsewhere that H&C were apparently together tonight and H wimped out.

    Lord help us if Rush ever dies or retires….

    Comment by TBlumer — August 31, 2008 @ 11:09 pm

  3. RE: …Pre-natal Post

    I am not a doctor or nurse, so take this for what little is worth; from personal experience:

    - According to the most popular book on pregnancy, “What to Expect when You’re Expecting”(*),
    it is true that there is a Risk of infection once you’re water breaks.
    The quote from the Sacramento, CA, doctor should be made note of for anyone expecting now or in the future, for situational awareness.

    - BUT, if infection is so risky, then WHY DID my hospital almost send me home?
    My water broke during the night on my first pregnancy. I figured this out after multiple trips to the bathroom, and wondering if this minor leakage meant anything. To try to keep a personal story to the bare facts:
    — Water broke in middle of the night
    — After 2nd (or 3rd?) trip to bathroom, decided to stay awake in living room, and see if my Pregnancy Book said anything
    — Ended up finding the section on water breaking; it said to call your doctor
    — I did call. Sleep doctor said: (a) No worries, report to the hospital first thing in normal morning hours.
    (b) Expect labor pains to begin in an hour or so.
    — Relaxed for a bit (probably 30 min?). At almost normal wake-up time, turned on bedroom light and alerted hubby: “It’s time to go”.
    — “Just five for minutes”, he said, rolling over and covering his face from the light.
    — “No, dear. IT’s TIME to go.” / “Ohhh, that time…”
    — Sure enough, after getting dressed and just leaving, on the road to hospital, the first labor pain (not Bracton Hicks) came: wheeww.
    — Then, at the hospital, They Didn’t Believe ME!! (since I was 2 weeks early).
    I was ALMOST SENT HOME. The labor pains had kinda dissapated (I think, because my body was tired and sleepy. I actually fell asleep
    for 10 minutes in the Exam room, waiting for a Nurse to first see me.) With some wiggling on the bed, and the Nurse re-testing,
    the Swab did turn PINK for amniotic fluid, rather than the yellow golden-flow fluid. Yeah, They were going to let me stay!
    — Skipping to the end: So, I got moved to a real Birthing Room, the Doc arrived on schedule, and a few hours later: Healthy BABY :-)

    – So, Bottom Line, the relevancy to your post:
    If infection from your water breaking is so dang bad, why would I have been allowed (well, SENT) home?
    Yes, infection is risk; and, more important, if you think you’re water broke, labor is coming and get to a hospital.
    But Palin may have gotten different advice about the level of risk, and waited to get to her regular personal doctor.

    (*) My copy would be dated some 10 years ago, or so; therefore, doctor’s advice may have changed.

    Comment by Ohio mom — September 1, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

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