October 5, 2011

Wednesday Off-Topic (Moderated) Open Thread (100511)

Filed under: Lucid Links — Tom @ 8:59 am

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Possible comment fodder follows. Other topics are also fair game.


“Herman Cain rises, Rick Perry slides in new CBS News poll” — No candidate has more than 17%.

“September (Announced) Layoffs Highest in Two Years” — “Employers announced 115,730 planned job cuts last month, more than double August’s total of 51,114, according to the report from consultants Challenger, Gray & Christmas, Inc.” Bank of America and the Army dominated the numbers.

“Vice President Joe Biden doesn’t know who Van Jones is” — “Politico reports that Van Jones was vetted by Joe Biden himself. Van Jones wrote about the VP on the White House website.”

At the Weekly Standard’s Blog“Obama Campaign Says GOP Blocking Jobs Bill–After Reid Blocks Jobs Bill” — “about ten minutes later.”

CBS News Reporter Says White House Screamed, Swore at Her Over Fast and Furious”

As Dick Durbin tells Bank of America customers toGet out of that bank” in response to the debit-card fee the bank established in response to the rate-cap amendment Durbin included in financial reform (which was carried out by the Fed), Barack Obama tells banks that (in the Daily Caller’s paraphrase) “Banks should accept a lower profit so their customers won’t have to pay for debit cards.” B of A lost $8.8 billion from continuing operations in the second quarter, and over $15 billion in the past four quarters.

Ford and the UAW have a tentative settlement, under which “Ford workers will get at least $16,700 over the four-year contract, in the form of a $6,000 signing bonus, $7,000 in lump-sum and inflation protection payments and at least $3,700 in profit-sharing this year. That’s more generous than GM’s agreement, which guarantees workers at least $11,500.” Despite the contract’s basic wage freeze, I would argue that the UAW did all it could to make Ford less competitive than Goverment/General Motors.

Say that “Obama = Hitler”? You get banned from introducing Monday Night Football. Say that McCain = Hitler in a planned-out concert production? You get to be the Super Bowl’s halftime entertainer.



  1. …….When you take yourself off the campaign trail just to flog a book, it raises the question: Why are you still around, Herman Cain?
    And what’s the real motive behind this run?


    Comment by G — October 5, 2011 @ 9:16 am

  2. I’ve seen shallow critiques before, but this is one of the all-time toppers.

    Imagine that, he’s promoting a book about himself wanting to be president (in the title) during a presidential campaign. He can do far more to get the American people and Republican voters to know him by getting his mug on TV and his voice all over the radio during the next month than he can do on the ground. Also, note that the headline communicates certainty while the text says “appears to be taking himself off the campaign trail.”

    Question his tactics, fine. Question his motivation? Horse manure. To quote Cain: “I’m not in this to finish second.”

    Comment by TBlumer — October 5, 2011 @ 9:23 am

  3. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/10/04/335586/herman-cain-show-me-the-science-that-being-gay-is-not-a-choice/

    Comment by G — October 5, 2011 @ 4:20 pm

  4. The default assumption, based in Church-recognized natural law, is that no one is “born” gay. There is no science supporting the notion that being gay is not a choice.

    The burden of proof is on those who need to scientifically and affirmatively prove that being gay is not a choice. That they’ve never even gotten into the neighborhood of meeting that burden — yet — is not arguable. They may be right (I personally doubt it), but they have to prove it, because until then, the default position has to be that internally logical natural law rules. This argument is independent of whether or not those who self-identify as homosexuals should suffer discrimination based what they claim is how they were born, and what is more likely in reality their choice. They shouldn’t.

    You really need to find better sources than ThinkRegress.

    Comment by TBlumer — October 5, 2011 @ 4:25 pm

  5. The week is looking UP!

    Solyndra scandal is widening. Guess who else in the WH knew???? Guess, guess…

    Nearly eight months into our investigation, documents provided to the Committee last Friday confirm those closest to the President – top advisors like Valerie Jarrett, Larry Summers, and Ron Klain – had direct involvement in the Solyndra mess. In addition to the cast of West Wing characters with access to the Oval Office, documents reveal a startlingly cozy relationship between wealthy donors and the President’s confidantes, especially in matters related to Solyndra.


    IF Jarrett knew then OBAMA knew!!!!

    NOW the intrepid Ron Paul can call for Impeachment over the proper issue which requires little room for tarring and feathering… CORRUPTION!

    So here’s a bank shot that will bring down the Dems in the Senate at the same time. Harry Reid will NEVER hold an Impeachment Hearing in the Senate if the House voted to charge Obama for corruption. The effect on the voters would be outrage over a Dem Senate leader from the Majority Party who himself is tainted with shady real estate deals dodging taxes. Obama and the Dems who stand with him would be tried in the court of public opinion and found guilty on Nov 2012 with the swift boot to the rear.

    Comment by dscott — October 6, 2011 @ 1:08 am

  6. NAR housing numbers suspect:


    Comment by dscott — October 6, 2011 @ 1:19 am

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