November 15, 2011

Tuesday Off-Topic (Moderated) Open Thread (111511)

Filed under: Lucid Links — Tom @ 7:00 am

Rules are here. Possible comment fodder follows. Other topics are also fair game.


Obama-endorsed (proof herehere, and hereOccupy Update:

  • From Washington“Occupiers disrupt Chamber of Commerce meeting on health care.” Expect self-important Occupiers to spend the next year disrupting various events. Expect the press to erroneously characterize these disruptions as “just like” the vocal Tea Party presence at congressional town hall meetings in the summer of 2009.
  • One such planned event disruption is Occupy Wall Street’s plan to “Shut Down Wall Street; Occupy the Subways; Take Times Square” on November 17.
  • Here’s a disruption which happened Sunday which was nicely handled (“Ex-cop boots OWS heckler from congressman’s swearing-in”) — “Kevin Hiltunen, a former NYPD officer, yesterday grabbed an Occupy Wall Street demonstrator by the collar and dragged him out of a Queens school where he’d been heckling US Rep. Bob Turner at the congressman’s swearing-in ceremony.”
  • Observations from Oakland (“OWS Supporters Confirm: Violence an Essential Component”) — “the Occupy Oakland events put the lie to the assertion that only a minor segment of the group is responsible for the violence and that the rest of the protesters do not condone that behavior. … when one of the protesters suggested nonviolence, he was roundly booed and mocked. The idea that the occupiers should be nonviolent was insulting to the movement’s core.”
  • New York City“Downtown residents and business owners angry that their neighborhood has been occupied for two months by the Wall Street demonstration staged a protest of the protest Monday, declaring that City Hall has let it get out of control.” The New York Post has published an estimate of the cost to local businesses of $479,400. Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s performance during “Occupy” has been an absolute disgrace. Here’s an idea: Someone tell him that the Occupiers are frying with transfats. He’ll have the cops breaking it all up in no time.
  • Portland — “Bob Downing, central services manager for the (Portland) parks bureau, said (that) … about 70 dump truck loads of trash and debris were hauled from the camps over the weekend. He said about 30 city employees worked Sunday to clear the parks.” Bill the Occupiers (fat chance).
  • As of 10:30 PM Monday night, John Nolte’s incomplete but nevertheless useful Occupy incident count was up to 232.’s death toll is up to 7.

As I noted yesterday – Andrew Breitbart asks: “How many more rapes, how many more deaths, how many more acts of violence have to occur before President Obama and the Democratic Party withdraw their support and condemn these lawless protests?” My response: It’s too late for that, Andrew. They’ve had weeks to distance themselves from the disgusting criminal mayhem, and haven’t. They own it now and they always will. No amount of attempted distancing from this point on can change that.


Given the Michael Lerner sighting in one of the “Occupy” entries above, I thought I would remind readers who are either too young or don’t have as much useless trivia in their heads as yours truly that in 1993, in the initial euphoria of their arrival at the White House, the Clintons embraced Lerner’s “Politics of Meaning,” some of the mushiest, most irrelevant crap ever foisted on the public. There’s a one-word answer to the supposedly challenging dilemmas Mrs. Clinton cited in the linked speech: Christianity.


One reason why Newsweek (or “Newsweak,” as is my preference) has experienced yet another management shakeup as it continues its downward spiral into irrelevance is garbage like this item (HT to an emailer) about the supposed hypocrisy of conservative congresspersons asking for what is mostly already legally allocated money to be spent expeditiously and/or sent to constituent entities who are waiting for it. What a complete nothingburger of a story. Most of what it tries seems to reek of desperation.


California Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown “will request billions for high-speed rail project.” Billions the state doesn’t have, the feds don’t have, and which the state’s residents will hardly ever use.


A Comparison:

  • A married mother of two girls who was already aggressively using coupons was feeding her family for $400 per month.
  • Then she dove into once-a-month cooking and cut the monthly food bill down to $200 (she says she spent $170 but also went out a few times for “for butter, milk and eggs,” so I’m padding it a little). The approach also has some perhaps unexpected fringe benefits.
  • The Maximum Monthly Allotment in the Food Stamp program for 2009-2010 was $668 — and this duplicates any free school breakfasts, lunches, and in some cases even dinners the kids may receive.

Don’t tell me we can’t significantly reduce federal spending without making people legitimately suffer.



  1. Wondered if you had noticed that in at least a few articles, they have identified both Joe Paterno and Tim Curley as Republicans… Because this obviously was a political story.

    Comment by Scott — November 15, 2011 @ 7:40 am

  2. Here is a link to one story.

    Comment by Scott — November 15, 2011 @ 7:41 am

  3. Actually it appears that those indications and for (C)-Center though it doesn’t look that he is in the center, and (R)-Right, which he is but I took it as Conservative and Republican. There was an article about the scandal that did referred to Paterno’s contributions to Republican politicals but I cannot find it now. So I guess it was either edited or I was mistaken.

    Comment by Scott — November 15, 2011 @ 7:50 am

  4. Yeah, I have noticed it, and I think I or someone at NB with access to TV report footage ought to comment on that. I sent a quick email to NB to see if someone can look into it.

    It may not be significant enough to warrant a post. The one item I saw at AP was about rescinding the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and mentioned Democrat Casey and Republican Toomey.

    Comment by TBlumer — November 15, 2011 @ 8:09 am

  5. The one thing I saw that was political was a crawl on ESPN quoting Rick Santorum as saying Paterno should resign and it referred to Santorum as a “close friend” of Paterno or something like that. I also saw a crawl that mentioned what Tom saw at AP, that Toomey and Casey had submitted a joint request that Paterno be stripped of his Congressional Medal. But that second one I don’t count as bias obviously.

    If some media outlets feel the politics of Paterno et al. are relevant (and whose complicity in the crimes if any is far from being established), why don’t they mention the politics of the actual perpetrator of the crimes Sandusky? Wonder who he contributed to, Dems maybe?

    Comment by zf — November 15, 2011 @ 8:51 am

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