November 19, 2012

Monday Off-Topic (Moderated) Open Thread (111912)

Filed under: Lucid Links — Tom @ 6:55 am

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  1. GOP, stop the hand wringing over losing to Obama, there was no repudiation or mandate, the updated vote tallies are in:

    How Many 2008 McCain Voters Went Libertarian in 2012?

    Obama is up to 63.8 million votes, Romney is up to 59.87 million votes. This would have Romney down only 120,000 from McCain’s vote total, while Obama is 5.69 million behind his 2008 total…

    …This is the sort of time where someone traditionally offers a “How the GOP Can Win Back the Libertarians” op-ed. (Note that the popular vote margin for Obama was 3.69 million, so the Libertarian vote did not make up the difference, just about a third of it.) But I suspect that if you voted Libertarian this cycle, you’re a pretty hard-core Libertarian, and unlikely to be won over by any half-measures the GOP might offer in the near future. Considering how there was little dispute that another four years of Obama would mean another four years of government growing bigger and taking a more active role in citizens’ lives, and how no one really thought Johnson would win, it would appear that the 1.22 million Libertarian voters were content to “send a message” with their votes… a message that will now be almost entirely ignored in Washington.

    So the question still remains what did we do correct in getting 5.69 million people to NOT vote Obama in 2012? We need to do more of that type of campaigning. Clearly it was more effective convincing people to not vote than trying to convince 1.22 million Libertarians to vote GOP instead of continually wasting their vote tilting at windmills.

    Comment by dscott — November 19, 2012 @ 3:36 pm

  2. Investment Falls Off a Cliff
    U.S. Companies Cut Spending Plans Amid Fiscal and Economic Uncertainty

    U.S. companies are scaling back investment plans at the fastest pace since the recession, signaling more trouble for the economic recovery.

    Half of the nation’s 40 biggest publicly traded corporate spenders have announced plans to curtail capital expenditures this year or next, according to a review by The Wall Street Journal of securities filings and conference calls.

    That ensures a recession but the short term technicals will continue to support the overall stock market valuations since (seed) money that would have been spent is being husbanded prop up the stock price. Why would any corporation risk money over a 5 year depreciation period with questionable return on investment?

    Comment by dscott — November 19, 2012 @ 3:57 pm

  3. How many jobs did Obama promise would be created if he were re-elected? Something like a million manufacturing jobs, wasn’t that his promise?

    Private Sector Troubled, Bailing Out After Obama Win

    The National Manufacturers Association forecasts 6 million layoffs and an 11% unemployment rate as a result of Obama’s pending tax hikes and regulatory siege.

    I promise 1 million jobs, loses 6 million instead, I wonder what excuses he will dream up this time? How many morons will be all too happy to accept failure?

    Comment by dscott — November 19, 2012 @ 4:44 pm

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