October 27, 2013

Chris Wallace and Brit Hume Skewer Juan Williams As He Defends Millions of Obamacare-Cancelled Individual Health Plans

On Tuesday’s Fox News Special report, contributor Juan Williams lamely tried to excuse away the mind-boggling incompetence of the HealthCare.gov rollout by claiming that “massive opposition (to Obamacare) from the Republicans” caused fearful system architects to “roll it out and see how it works for now.”

Juan’s haughty huffiness was so absurd that the Fox News panel was caught slack-jawed and barely challenged him. That’s not what happened Sunday morning on Chris Wallace’s Fox News Sunday broadcast when Williams tried to claim that millions of people losing their individual health care coverage are going to be better off with Obamacare policies (video and transscript follow the jump; bolds are mine; HT to Mediaite via Twitchy):

Relevant portion of transcript (with minor corrections):

CHRIS WALLACE: And let’s put up again those statistics. Just in case you didn’t see them, because they are quite remarkable about the people who are losing health insurance, not gaining it. Florida Blue terminating 300,000 policies because they don’t meet the new ObamaCare standards. Kaiser Permanente in California, 160,000 cancelling. These are people who had health insurance in the individual market, who were happy with it, and they’re being kicked off, because the new — under the new ObamaCare mandates, that doesn’t meet it. And to pick up on what George (Will) said, the House Speaker Boehner said, more people could actually lose health insurance in the month of October than sign up for it.

JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: You know, I get this sense, that people — on the Republican side are enjoying this moment. But this is empty rhetoric. When you speak to the insurance executives in Florida, in California, they say they’re canceling those policies, Chris, because ObamaCare has requirements — Ten categories or mandates for levels of coverage. The current policies don’t meet them, so they have to cancel them, but they’re extending, they’re extending offers to the very people who are losing them for better packages at lower costs with more benefits. 

WALLACE: No, no, that’s not true. It is not.

WILLIAMS: It is true. Let me just tell you something else that you said. You said oh, but, you know, January 1, these people lose their coverage. In fact, the insurance companies are saying, we will make sure that on January 1, you have coverage. This is not the apocalypse.

BRIT HUME: Juan, look, what about this – the president promised explicitly, we heard it on this program, if you like the coverage you have now, you can keep it, period.


HUME: These hundreds of thousands of people evidently like the policies they had. Because they kept paying for it. They’re now being told they can’t have those policies any more. That they must – they must have policies that involve coverage for things they may feel they don’t need.

WILLIAMS: They’re going to get better coverage, Brit, at potentially lower cost.

HUME: Whose idea of better coverage? Their idea or the government’s?

WILLIAMS: They — what they are offered, it may be their idea. Right now …

HUME: It may be their idea.

WILLIAMS: Right now all that insurance companies are saying is, we don’t need the requirements under ObamaCare, but we’re going to offer you a better deal!

HUME: No, we’re going to offer you a government mandated deal that may or may not be a better deal for the people involved. There are people who are elderly people who’ve been required to pay for maternity coverage.

WALLACE: We had to end this segment, I just to want to point out that we had a couple of weeks ago, a letter that a 62-year-old couple who have their own business in Oregon — under the ObamaCare, they were losing their policy, the new policy, the cheapest policy they were being offered, the deductible was going to double to 5,000 a person. Visits to specialists, if one of them had to see a specialist, were going up from $35 a visit to $100 a visit, and their premium was going up. So, the idea that they are going to get more for less. You know what — there is no free lunch.

Williams is delusional if he really believes that the combination of forced coverage of unneeded items, much higher deductibles, higher percentage copays when the deductibles are used up, and generally higher premiums represents a “better deal.” Note that he felt compelled to back down slightly during the segment, moving from “a (definitely) better deal” to “potentially lower cost.”

Juan’s assertion that these cancelled policies replaced by clearly worse plans “may be their (customers’) idea” is flat-out dense. If these customers wanted such plans before, they would have purchased them.

Wallace has it figured out. There’s no free lunch. The average reasonably healthy person in the Obamacare individual (cough, cough) “market” is getting worse coverage at a usually higher cost because of the need to cover people with pre-existing conditions who are going to flood the exchanges and generate far higher-than-average claims.

One final thought for Juan Williams: You can take your smear “that people — on the Republican side are enjoying this moment” straight to Hades. Conservatives and Republicans didn’t make this mess, Juan, and although they correctly predicted it, they don’t enjoy seeing people suffer. Where except in the most extreme leftist fever swamps would you ever get the idea that they do?

Cross-posted at NewsBusters.org.



  1. Be nice if we had, you know, an actual adversarial press in this. These people have their “talking points” and have so come to expect cooperative interviewers that it’s funny to watch them eat their feet when someone runs them off the script. Oh, and the projection! They think we’re popping corn to watch the train wreck bring them down, only because that’s what they would do. No concern for the victims in all this, just a political football game.

    Comment by Mr Evilwrench — October 27, 2013 @ 11:04 pm

  2. We told them so and now they are attempting to spin their failure into victimhood.

    But again, millions of people losing their individual coverage is a feature of ObamaCare, not a bug, how else did anyone think they would get the extra money for subsidizing the cost of other people’s policies? We keep hearing everyone wring their hands that not enough young people will sign up. This is complete nonsense, IF the younger people were not signing up before presumably due to cost even with a high deductible plan then why pray tell would they sign up now being super-over-charged to get the money for the subsidy???? Only a complete idiot would believe such a thing and that’s what the MSM and the liberals want everyone to believe.

    BTW-This is typical of liberals, they always screw over their so called constituency…Blacks, women, anti-war, brokers, bankers, etc. All these young people enthralled by the awesomeness of Obama’s rhetoric naively voted to screw themselves believing they themselves would get cheap insurance. How does it feel young people to be deceived by a huckster? We told you so, now man up and help us neuter these hucksters in 2014 by turning over the Senate. I am gloating? No. I am disgusted by your stupidity? YES Swallow your pride and do the right thing… Tell us young people, is Harry Reid correct in saying everyone wants to pay more taxes???? Are you really that stupid? Unfortunately, we won’t know until November 2014.

    Comment by dscott — October 28, 2013 @ 8:19 am

  3. Please note useful idiot Joe Manchin:

    Democrat Joe Manchin: “Nobody Should Be Forced To Buy ObamaCare If It Costs More” (Video)


    The problem Joe is that ObamaCare can not work without making these very people pay MORE. Hence their policy has to be cancelled and self righteously and condescendingly told that their new policy will give them more so that’s why they have to pay more.

    Oh, and let’s poke a hole in that nonsense about young people again, why were 25 and younger allowed to be put on parents policies IF in fact ObamaCare was counting on these very people to be overcharged to provide subsidy to sicker people????? Either that contradiction in policy is due to gross incompetence OR a deception to get people to condone the implementation of ObamaCare knowing full well that millions would then be forced to lose their policies in order to force more money out of them??? Given the track record of this bunch it is the latter. Those 25 and under obviously would vote for Obama having this dangled before them and the rest of the naive people didn’t know what was going to hit them.

    Comment by dscott — October 28, 2013 @ 8:37 am

  4. I leave you with this final thought on ObamaCare and the naive:

    Quote from Waterworld movie

    Nord: So which way we rowin’?

    Deacon: I don’t have a goddamn clue. Don’t worry, they’ll row for a month before they figure out I’m fakin’ it.

    The MSM can no longer deny Obama has been faking it, why else does he go golfing all the time as though he were Eisenhower presiding over a booming dynamic economy? The difference between Obama and Eisenhower is that Eisenhower allowed the market to prosper on it’s own with little interference, Obama on the other hand threw up a bunch of road blocks and then told the market figure it out. Five years later with fewer full timers than taking office in 2009, we see the market has figured it out. Will the rest of you?

    Comment by dscott — October 28, 2013 @ 9:23 am

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