May 16, 2017

Tuesday Off-Topic (Moderated) Open Thread (051617)

Filed under: Lucid Links — Tom @ 6:00 am

This open thread is meant for commenters to post on items either briefly noted below (if any) or otherwise not covered at this blog. Rules are here.



  1. The cover up is beginning to unravel.

    Seth Rich, slain DNC staffer, had contact with WikiLeaks, say multiple sources

    This morning on WMAL, 105.9 FM, on the show “Mornings on the Wall”, a reporter revealed a bomb shell factoid. When he called the DC police about the Seth Rich story relating to the laptop, the DC police NEVER returned his call and a DNC official then called Seth’s father to ask why the reporter was talking to the police…

    The reporter wants to know how did the DNC official know he called the DC police???

    The police and FBI agents when interviewed by the reporter indicated they were told to “stand down” on the investigation and when asked who gave that order they refused to say. Who has the laptop????

    The May 16 interview should show up tomorrow on the web:

    The facts are growing to support the initial suspicion that Seth Rich’s murder was indeed politically motivated to silence him from confirming that the Russians NEVER hacked the DNC. The “Russians did it” meme was started by the Clintons to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the emails that showed Clinton operatives were rigging the Democrat nomination process, so it is not a stretch to conceive that Clinton Inc. had Seth murdered to preserve the meme they created.

    So this indicates that Seth Rich upon seeing how Clinton operatives were rigging the nomination process against Bernie Sanders wanted to throw a monkey wrench into that scam in an attempt to thwart Clinton from stealing the nomination by publicly exposing the conspirators via Wiki-leaks and got himself killed in the process.

    Every Sanders’ supporter should be demanding and protesting the DNC until they remove every Clinton supporter from the DNC and DCCC. It may be true that every Clintonite is a Democrat but it is false that every Democrat is a Clintonite. In this case being Hillary Clinton does not mean she owns the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is not Clinton and Clinton is not the Democrat Party.

    It should be now clear that a RICCO investigation be initiated against Clinton Inc. Crimes were committed, 100′s of millions of dollars were expropriated for the purpose of electing Hillary Clinton by Clinton Inc. from the DNC, DCCC and donors BECAUSE they were supporting the nominee of the Democrat Party. That nomination was gained by criminal means as the emails indicate. Fraud is a crime and to engage/conspire in activities that unduly favor one candidate over another was the means to an end is a violation of fiduciary trust. Seth Rich was murdered and it is now clear that a politically motivated person in authority squashed a murder investigation to prevent a potentially politically explosive truth from impacting the election.

    To allow Clinton and her fellow conspirators to get away with murder just because it might damage the Democrat Party brand is to dishonor Seth Rich as a Democrat who cared about the Party. Those who are Democrats need to realize that purging the Party of Clintonites will in the short term be painful but in the long term save their Party. Republicans went through a similar process with Nixon, and now who has the House, the Senate and the White House?

    Comment by dscott — May 16, 2017 @ 9:16 am

  2. Fox News: Seth Rich, Murdered DNC Staffer, ‘Leaked Thousands of Internal Emails to WikiLeaks’

    Comment by dscott — May 16, 2017 @ 9:37 am

  3. BOMBSHELL! DNC Staffer In Touch With Wikileaks Before He Was Murdered

    “The police department nor the FBI have been forthcoming,” Wheeler told the station. “They haven’t been cooperating at all. I believe that the answer to solving his death lies on that computer, which I believe is either at the police department or either at the FBI. I have been told both.”

    Wheeler added that a source in the D.C. police department “looked him in the eye” and told him that investigators were told to stand down in the case.

    Cover up.

    Comment by dscott — May 16, 2017 @ 9:56 am

  4. BTW -

    And who authoritatively said it was the Russians and when???? DNI Clapper, Dept State Kerry, CIA Brennan…

    Russian “fingerprints” left behind on DNC hack

    Last Updated Jul 26, 2016 12:01 PM EDT

    Last Updated Jul 26, 2016 12:01 PM EDT

    The U.S. believes that people working for the Russian government are behind the hack of internal emails at the Democratic National Committee, officials confirmed Tuesday to CBS News.

    A U.S. intelligence official told CBS News that the signature of the breach is Russian and the U.S. government has identified methods and techniques used by Russia in past hacks that mirror those used in the DNC incursion.

    “We understand how hack groups use the Internet to attack. The pattern and launch point used before by Russians is similar to the DNC attack,” the official said.

    A cyber analyst quoted by the Associated Press, Michael Buratowski with Fidelis Cybersecurity, which investigated the hack, said he was near certain that Russia was the culprit, based on the use by the hackers of “Russian internet addresses, Russian language keyboards, and the time codes corresponding to business hours in Russia, as well as the sophistication of the hack,” according to the AP…

    …”It would seem unlikely though that influencing the election was the initial goal because the first intrusion,” Sanger said, adding, “[It] was in the summer of 2015, long before anybody knew that Donald Trump would emerge as the candidate.”

    Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort called the accusations absurd.

    “It’s pure obfuscation. of the Clinton campaign. What they don’t want to talk about what is in the e-mails,” he said.

    Note the date of the article which contradicts the Clinton campaign tell all book, Shattered. The timeline of the stolen/leaked DNC emails goes back to 2015 which is what Seth Rich forwarded to Wikileaks.

    The fact that high level agency heads were pronouncing the meme “the Russians did it” to cover for Clinton means Obama knew as well and they conspired to deceive the American people about Hillary stealing the Democrat Party nomination from Bernie Sanders.

    From previous posts we conclude parts of the FBI knew Seth Rich was assassinated not murdered in a botched robbery attempt. The were told to stand down to cover up the motive for the killing. New information today indicates he was shot from behind. What robber shoots from behind as an opening move and then NOT take the guy’s wallet????? Come now, it stretches credulity that any law enforcement officer, even a flat foot, when presented with the information that a person was killed with a shot from behind and no wallet is taken. The motive for the murder is obviously not robbery, that’s Detective 101.

    Seth Rich deserves justice.

    Comment by dscott — May 16, 2017 @ 11:43 am

  5. Correction to #1, it was not a reporter but the private investigator who called the DC police and then the DNC called the family. It was Rod Wheeler, the PI, who asked the questions of the police and got the stares and was told they were to stand down.

    Comment by dscott — May 16, 2017 @ 3:49 pm

  6. thanks for the links, dscott.

    This was not a hack, it was the relaying of documents with a flash drive in person or perhaps over the internet through a filesharing app.

    The family’s denial is obviously out of fear for their safety to prevent someone from deciding their house needs to be ransacked for evidence, or worse, that one or more of them knows was aware of what Rich had done and needs to be silenced. The fact that the family is using the tired and discredited DNC talking point claiming “emails can be altered” is to me a message to the Dems that “hey, we’re still on your side here.”

    Additionally, there’s the Wikileaks email chain with Podesta saying “I’m Definitely For Making an Example of a Suspected Leaker.” You only make an example of someone by firing them, seriously harming them physically, or killing them. The email chain was in Feb. Rich was murdered in July.

    Comment by Tom — May 16, 2017 @ 3:53 pm

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